Milestone: Corey Duffel
By Rob Brink
The Skateboard Mag, November 2008
Corey Duffel admits to being a certifiable drama magnet. Some of it, as you may know, has been self-inflicted and highly publicized in the skateboard media over the years, while other parts of it might just be the fact that Corey stands out in a crowd. He looks and dresses different. He has presence and a big mouth every now and again. It could be something in the cosmos—some weird energy. You know that friend of yours who’s always having odd or funny or crazy stuff happen to him for no apparent reason? That’s Corey.
“Drama is following me constantly,” says Duffel. “The worst part is, I try to avoid drama, yet I’m always stuck in the middle of it. Whether it’s with fucking girlfriends or fucking kids or whatever. And cops never leave me alone. I just want to sit down and have a peaceful evening, and nope, it always seems to be drama.”
For those of you who may not have been around, or who just like to hear about it over and over, Corey’s most infamous debacle was his use of the “N” word in regards to Stevie Williams in a Big Brother am interview about eight years ago. Not to be overlooked, some choice anti-gay slurs were spoken in the interview as well. Many even believe Corey owes his career to the hype it generated. Seemingly wiser, he strongly disagrees.
“It did nothing but hurt me,” says Corey, now 24 years old. “I’m sure it played a big part in me not having a shoe sponsor for a while. It made me look like a fucking terrible person. I said terrible things and acted like a retard and I paid for it. People say it did wonders for me, but it made me look shameful. Obviously it brought attention to me, but for a bad thing. No one wants to be known for that—especially in skateboarding when we’re all supposed to be homies with everyone. If I hadn’t done that, I could have done a lot better for myself back then, ’cause it’s something that will follow me for a long time.”
And follow him a long time it has. Recently, allegations of Corey being a racist resurfaced on the web and Clyde Singleton offered some candid commentary on his blog:
Can somebody explain to me, how this scumbucket, still has a skateboarding career? i got an email from a kid who said he saw recent footage of ole Corey trying a trick over a rail, falling, and screaming “N!gger”, at the top of his lungs ... anyone (namely, any brothers) who's dumb enough to stand next to this racist fukk, and believe he's “changed”, is a fool. racism is a disease. you don't take a few weeks off, apologize, and come back “healthy”. fukk this kid. and once again- why am i the only one discussing this?”[sic]
“I’m still hated on for so much shit I’ve said in the past and apologized for,” says Corey. “Clyde says some sensitive shit about me, but I’ve just got to get on with things. I don’t want to say nothing back, so I just shut it. I just live my life and do what I’m doing. You always have to move forward and try to go on to things with the best outlook.”
In other recent inter-industry squabbles, according to Corey, he was jumped by Beagle [Baker’s filmer] at a Vans contest last year.
“Yeah. So some dude I don’t even know fucking comes up and sucker punches me three times while I’m in the middle of a conversation with somebody else and then takes off.”
Corey found out later it was over him making out with Beagle’s ex-girlfriend.
“Keyword ‘ex-girlfriend,’” says Corey. “It takes two to tango, dude. It ain’t my fault—blame the girl!’”
A second physicality between the two, evidently initiated by Beagle again, occurred at the Maloof Money Cup in July. A picture of Beagle punching Corey surfaced on the web almost instantly and Clyde pounced as well:
Beagle … I must give you the highest honor in Gullyness, as well as “ass kickedgry” known to man. the only person who i’d be happier to see gettin the beats like this Is ... well. nobody. you’ve done more for Blacks, than Jesse Jackson punk ass. this, my friend- is one of THE greatest days i’ve come to see in my 20 years of skateboarding. All I can really say, is THANK YOU brotha.. [sic]
And it’s these types of things that make a piece about Corey Duffel difficult to construct. Ignoring or evading these issues would be total bullshit. But there’s a potential guilt-by-association situation going on here. Defending Corey, or even just not condemning him, can be touchy for anyone.
At the same time, despite all the things you may hear or believe or see, Corey isn’t as hated on as you might think. People back him—although some sort of whisper it behind closed doors. They certainly don’t support his comments from Big Brother or anything of the sort, but they support his skating. Among these supporters, there’s an acknowledgment that everyone, especially kids, do stupid shit, fuck up, and (hopefully) eventually snap out of it. Honestly, the general consensus with most people I spoke with is that Corey made some dumb mistakes, got (and is still getting) what he deserves, works hard, and rips on a skateboard. That’s not to say he isn’t under the microscope … in fact, Corey might’ve used up eight of his nine lives in skateboarding already. And he knows it.
One time Corey got expelled from high school for having knife in his pocket and the vice principal told him he was never going to succeed at anything and was going to be a failure.
“Two years after I graduated,” Corey says, “he asked me to speak at the high school for career day. I thought that was kind of funny. I was like, ‘The nerve of this guy. He tells me I’m going to be a failure but now he wants me to fucking teach fucking career day about how to become a professional skateboarder?’”
“Did you say that to him?” I asked.
And Corey replied, “No, I bit my tongue pretty much.”
Once again, keeping his mouth shut, it seems Corey’s taken his beating—figuratively and literally—and tried to learn from his mistakes. To be frank, Corey talked some healthy doses of shit on a few other skateboarders in our little interview. A few weeks after, he called me explaining he’d rather it not be printed. In other words, he’s wising up. But it seems, much like with his vice principle, for whatever reason, the people in Corey’s world always offer a second chance or come back for more.
Over the years, Corey’s had to work three times as hard to keep himself from industry exile—mainly by letting his skating and work ethic do the talking. He’s had about ten interviews in the last four years alone. The amount of pros who’ve done even half of that in twice the amount of time can probably be counted on two hands.
“Perhaps it’s because people either love me or hate me?” Corey asks, addressing the vast amounts of coverage people want from him. “I don’t think I know any fucking neutral-type people. Even with pro skateboarders … the ones I get along with are real good friends, and the guys I don’t know, if I even wave to them, I don’t think I’m going to get a wave back. But a lot of times with the people who don’t like me, they end up meeting me and we become good friends.”
Even with the fans, it’s the same ol’ story. Corey either meets the die-hards who look just like him or the guys that he gets death threats from.
“I’ve shown up to demos in shorts and kids fucking get mad at me. Like, ‘Where are your tight pants? Why are you wearing shorts?’ I don’t know. Fuck it. It’s a hundred degrees outside.”
“He’s probably one of the easiest people to work with because he just understands how it all works,” says Foundation Team Manager Eric Wall. “He knows what he has to do to get in the mag. He won’t waste a photographer’s time. He’ll sign autographs and pose for pictures all night long. He’ll have talks with the kids. He may seem like the I-don’t-give-a-fuck dude, but he does.”
“I just like to get shit done. I know everyone else has a life and shit to do too. I wake up early. I’ll skate all fucking night. I want to be home working in the yard. I got two dogs and a new house I got to take care of. I got my family I like hanging out with. I got records to listen to. I got a million plants to plant, you know? I don’t want some fucking weeds and overgrown grass in the front yard. I want my shit looking proper.”
Corey knows how it works with the fans too. He’s no stranger to doing what it takes to keep ’em happy.
“It’s just called having human decency and being polite,” Corey says. “You never know how long a kid drives for demo, whether it’s ten minutes or fifteen fucking hours. I remember exactly which pros were cool to me and which ones were assholes. If a kid meets me, I’ll want to make sure he knows I’m actually a fucking nice guy—especially if it’s a kid who like doesn’t like me. I want them to see that at least I can fucking sit down and hang out and have a conversation with them. It’s like, why be a dick? Do you want to sell boards or do you not want to sell boards, you know? If a kid drove twelve hours to see you and you don’t give him an autograph, he’s going to think you’re a cocksucker. And I don’t want to be like the fucking cocksucker pros that I still remember as a kid.”
Corey believes in loyalty to his sponsors. And it may very well be part of the reason he’s managed to stick around through some hard times. Despite offers to ride for other brands over the years, he decided to stick with Foundation.
“They hooked me up when no one was giving me offers, so I definitely find that I have a solid bond with them,” says Corey. “To me that definitely goes a long way.”
But it’s not just “controversial” industry drama that looms over Corey’s head … there’s the everyday as well. Commonly referred to as anecdotes, this is the part where we put the seriousness aside and have a little chuckle at Corey’s expense over how, on a recent Osiris trip to South America, he got parasites after consuming large quantities of the tap water he was specifically told not to drink.
Admittedly too cheap to buy bottled water because it’s a “crock of shit and a waste of money,” it was the last day of his trip when the distributor asked him if he’d been drinking the tap water.
“I drank about six to ten glasses a day,” Corey replied.
‘”Well, ya know,” said the distributor, “it’s contaminated with parasites. You’re going to have to go get pills when you get back home.”
Sure enough, Corey was in his third day of gut rot when we did this interview.
While busy ingesting parasites in Ecuador, Corey’s girlfriend dumped him. “Over the phone?” I asked. “No. Even better yet. Over the AIM … the iChat,” he said. “I’m sure everything will work back out. Things always seem to happen that way.”
And they always seem to happen to Corey, We’ve all seen some priests on camera acting very un-priestly to skateboarders, but how many people do you know that can say they’ve been run over by an unruly man of the cloth and lived to tell the tale? Corey can.
He was skating some brand-new hubbas at a church in San Diego with LaRue and his friend Jeff, only to be confronted by a priest telling them they couldn’t skate and they were about to be arrested. Corey gave his trick one more go, made it, and the crew hopped in the car.
“So we’re leaving and Jeff pulls a U-turn to laugh in the guy’s face,” says Corey. “Like, ‘Ha ha. We got the trick!’
“Well the guy wasn’t so psyched on that so all of a sudden he pulls a hard left and crashes into Jeff’s car. Fully hit us on purpose. Like, that’s [attempted] manslaughter, man!
“So I get out of the car and I’m like ‘Hey dude. Take it easy, man.’ And of course he’s super bummed on that, like, ‘I’m not a dude.’ We’re like ‘Yeah, nice behavior, you’re supposed to be like, some holy dude.’
“So he gets back in his car. I’m outside just checking out the car and calling the cops. And then all of a sudden I look up and the dude is charging at me from like 30 or 40 feet away.
“It didn’t really click in my brain that I was about to get run over. I was just like ‘Holy shit!’ So I try to jump up out of the way and I get smacked by this SUV. I fly up and crack his windshield. Fully got toasted. My friends told me it was like straight out of a movie and then you see him peel out and take off as I’m laying on the ground, fucking fully looking pathetic in the middle of the street ’cause I just got hit by this SUV.”
Corey had hit his arm and head pretty badly and was still lying on the ground when the cops came. The officers ignored the fact that a priest drove over Corey and left the scene, proceeding to blame him for damaging the church. A few witnesses were walking their dogs and told the cops the whole story and in the end Corey still got tagged.
“I love that I get busted for fucking skating a hubba, but it’s okay for a proper guy in society to hit me with his car—a hit and run—and he doesn’t get in trouble. Kind of a strange world sometimes.”
In a past interview, Corey mentioned being one of the more rebellious and original skateboarders in the industry, because so many skaters look alike or fall into certain cliques. And asking him about it led to some optimistic commentary.
“My good friend Garrett Hill had that 360 flip 50-50 ad in red and black pants, and so many people gave him shit about that. But how many people remember that trick? Everybody knows it, whether it’s for the fact that it’s a sick trick or for the pants. So for the people that hate on him for it. Like, who gives a shit? Fuck them. If you wear something ridiculous, at least people remember it. Why do you want to be such a bore? It’s pretty annoying ’cause the thing that always makes people so awesome is something different and original. And yet you’re going to be a skateboarder talking shit on another skater for doing something he loves to do? We should all be homies with each other and just have a good time no matter what you look like. The reason we started skating was to get away from everybody else and have fun with our friends. It’s supposed to be original.”
Some might view that as a “take your own advice” type of scenario. But then again, Corey isn’t necessarily predictable, static, or safe.
“It’s like they always say,” says Corey. “‘Any publicity is good publicity’ in a way. I mean, shit, if you’re hating on me, that’s cool, ’cause at least you’re thinking about me. There’s that Oscar Wilde quote: ‘The only thing worse than being talked bad about, is not being talked about at all,’ ya know?”
It seems like Corey Duffel is a fairly self-aware young man who knows his place in the world of skateboarding. He also knows what he’s up against. He persists and is trying to find a balance between enjoying the attention he earns himself and crossing the line to get it. And while some people love to hate him, there’s a whole bunch of people out there who really hope he doesn’t blow it anymore.
The question now seems to be “How far is he gonna go in skateboarding and for how long?” As cliché as it sounds, it’s anyone’s guess. So, as always, it looks like all eyes are gonna be on Corey for a while.
Corey Duffel Interview
Big Brother, August 2001
Corey Duffel is a Goddamn Am that should be a goddamn pro. Like many of the new breed of ams, Corey's skating is too good for a simple two-page interview. We might do more of this in the future because ams are eager to take photos and get shit done, since they aren't getting paid yet and haven't turned into the whiny, spoiled brats that many pros turn into after receiving their first paycheck. So it was with this thinking, and a surprise package from photographer Brian Gaberman, that we decided to give punk/brat Corey Duffel a full-fledged, grown-up-size interview. But be warned, this is no ordinary 16-year-old: Aside from the subject looking like a girl and having a lisp, this interview contains profanity, use of the word nigger, some musings upon homosexuality and, of course, the very open thoughts of a very confused boy. —Chris Nieratko
At what age did you decide you wanted to be Jim Greco?
Jim Greco could suck my nuts—I'm just joking. I have no clue. Forget Jim, I want to be like Johnny Thunders. I got into music when I was about 12, I got into him.
You play any instruments?
I mess around on the bass. But I suck. I skate. I wish I could play.
I heard you can't even play, and then you dance around and practice in your mirror.
No, I wish I could do something that cool. If I did, I would admit that. I ain't that batty though.
So what's with this speech impediment you got?
I don't know, I was just born like that.
What is it called?
A speech impediment.
There is no specific name for it?
Not that I know of. It's good though, it's like I could tell chicks that I'm British or Swedish or something, and they fall for it.
Do you have a lisp?
Nah, no lisp. Mic-E Reyes says I got a lisp, but lisps are for faggots.
So you can spell Mississippi all right then?
Yeah. M-i-s-s-i-p-p-i-i-p-p-i-i, I don't know. I forgot.
That wasn't even close.
Yeah, I know, I forgot.
What do you do in school all day?
I draw designs for Emerica all day. I pay attention. I get good grades. I don't know how to spell, I suck at spelling.
What about the drawing book that you take to school?
That's fun. I just bring drawing books, and I draw naked chicks and just draw lots of dicks coming out of heads and things.
You like dicks coming out of heads?
It's fun just because it pisses off my art teacher, and she gets mad at me.
Did you ever have a dick ever come in your head?
No, I ain't no faggot. I'm not a queer. It may sound like I have a lisp, but I'm not a faggot.
I can't see a lot of girls digging you because you kind of look like a girl.
You're pissing me off, Chris. I hate that comment. Like people come up to me like, "Hey, ma'am, you look just like somebody I know." I'm just like, get the hell away from me.
Do you get that a lot though?
Yeah, yeah, it's like guys come and try to hit on me at concerts. They see me in my leather jacket, and the mohawk faggots come up to me, and they're like, "Oh, hey, what's up, baby?" I'll pull out my switchblade, like, "Get away from me, I ain't no fag."
How do you deal with that mentally, everybody thinking you are a girl?
I cut my hair. I just go complain to my girlfriend about it, and she just laughs at me.
Has it always been that way, that people just think you are a girl?
Just like the last four years probably. I don't know, I don't even have tits. When I'm skating at the skatepark, people will come up to my mom like, "Hey, your daughter is really good at skateboarding, isn't she?" A chick came up to me like, "Hey, you are one of the top best chick skateboarders, huh?" I just pulled my pants down, like, "Hey, you want to see my cock?"
Bullshit. You don't pull your dick out for people.
Yeah, I'll show it, like I ain't no chick, man. I got the cock right here.
But that's got to be a weird feeling, though, like dudes think you are a chick, but then gay guys like you too.
Yeah, yeah. What would you feel like if a gay guy blew you a kiss? It sucks, you know? It happens to me all the time.
Have you ever been in a really awkward situation with a gay dude?
At my school there is this kid that calls himself Baby Blue, and he blows kisses at me, and I just threaten to stab him with my knife. I was like, "If you hit on me one more time, I'll stab your ass."
Does your girlfriend get into it though?
No, she hates fags just as much as me, I think. But if I do something to piss her off, she'll be like, oh, I'm just going to leave you for the homos up in Castro. "I'm going to let them butt rape you tonight." Just to piss me off because she knows how much I hate gay guys. My dad always taught me to hate gay guys, I guess.
How does your dad feel that he's always taught you to hate gay guys, and you kind of look kind of fruity?
Oh, he makes fun of me, he calls me a faggot himself.
Your dad calls you a faggot?
Yeah, he's like, "Kamikaze butt pirate, get your ass over here." Just joking around because he knows how much I don't like them, so he's like, "Hey, faggot, get over here." He's like, "If you hate fags so much, get rid of those tight pants."
But don't you feel like a dork, going to your sponsors with your mommy?
Yeah, but my mom's cool, so it's good. She ain't no pro 'ho.
Is she hot though?
I don't look at my mom like that.
Does she have big tits?
You know it.
And a tight ass?
Mic-E Reyes always thinks so.
I bet your mom got done by Mic-E. How does that make you feel?
I don't want to say anything. Mic-E will beat me up. Mic-E's sketchy, man.
Dude, he can beat the shit out of you and your dad. Doesn't that suck?
Yeah. I don't mess with him. He just makes fun of my lisp. Like he's the only one who has said anything about my lisp. He just took my mesh hat off my head and never gave it back. He said, "Once you learn how to talk, you can get it back."
Tell me how you can have this image of a dirty punk rocker, and you come from a good upstanding rich family?
I'm not. You can't be punk if you are from Walnut Creek, you can't be anything but rich, pretty much. It's just like Jim, he's Italian, he's not punk, but it's just something fun. Like if somebody asked me if I was punk, I'd say, "No, I'm a skateboarder." I don't think I'm punk, I just like the image.
Do you think it bums people out to know that you got this image, but you are just a little rich kid?
I'm not that rich. I ain't like that. It's like I'm sure someone like Jim's got more money than me, and everybody thinks he's the total punk guy, but he's just a normal guy. I hate that, everybody is like, "Dude, you are a mini Greco." No, I'm not mini Greco. I'm not into drugs or whatever.
So what happened with those guys? Tell me about the whole Think situation.
I was in Tampa, and I just had the total Baker image, I guess, like grabbing my balls, giving the finger to everybody, spitting at them and smashing bottles. Andrew [Reynolds] got psyched off it, and then he saw my footage, and then him and Greg [Carroll] had a talk. Andrew went up to him, and he was like, "We want the kid on the team." Greg was like, "All right, that's cool with me." It was like an agreement between me and Greg, like, "I know you are psyched on Baker, you don't really fit the Think image," and Andrew's like, "Yeah, I'll be glad to take him off my hands." So I didn't get kicked off.
You got traded.
Yeah, I got traded, that's exactly what it was. Then after Tampa, I get a call from Jim [Greco], and he says, "You'll never be on the team, nigga, you'll never be on the team!" Jim was psyched on me, that's what Andrew said, but he was really wasted one night, and he just calls me up and said all this crap. Then a few days later, he called back and apologized to me. So I got pretty much traded and then got kicked off.
In one day?
No, it was like three days.
You were on Baker for three days?
Yeah, it was something like that. I never even got a box out of it. Finally after the trade show, then I get a box, and like after I hung with Jim for a few days, then he was psyched. We just talked about music and everything. Just not psyched to put me on the team, I don't think.
Who are you getting boards from then?
Lance Mountain's been giving me boards.
But you don't seem like you fit the Firm image.
Yeah, but Lance Mountain is a cool guy, and I like him a lot, and it's a good solid team. There's really a team I could fit.
You think Baker is the only team that you can fit on?
No, I don't even think I fit with Baker because I don't drink or smoke. That stuff will mess up skateboarding up. That is what Baker is pretty much all about, like the punk side of skateboarding and getting drunk. Now I feel like a dick, and I'm talking all this mad trash on everybody.
You got a bunch of Christian dudes on Firm, and you're Mormon.
How did you find that out? Man, Big Brother is sketchy, you guys know everything. It's the same thing, pretty much. All religion is the same, you believe in something.
So, what is it like being Mormon?
It's good, I guess. My mom's parents are Mormon, so she brought me into life being Mormon. It's whatever because I wasn't going to drink anyway, so if somebody says you are not supposed to drink, that's fine with me because it's just going to mess up my skating anyways. Everyone thinks Mormons all jacked, but it is pretty much the same as any other religion.
Yeah, but you are not supposed to have sex before you are married though, right
That's a lie. Like all religions, you are supposed to wait until the one you meet and you are supposed to be with them forever, so it's pretty much the same, but everybody goes against those rules, I think.
So you are out there having sex?
No, I have a girlfriend who I have been dating for like two years, so, you know, stuff goes on. She is cool, like she is really into music and everything.
Does she think, because you look like a girl sometimes, she's having lesbian sex?
No, some nigger called us lesbians before.
What did you just say?
We were sitting in Wendy's once, and some nigger comes up to us, like, "Hey, lesbians, get down on your knees and give me some blowjobs right now." That's the only time she has ever felt like a lesbian. He was like some trashy nigger like Stevie Williams, like gold fronts, like sketchy and had a pistol in his pocket, so I pretty much had to listen to whatever he said, like you don't want to talk back to him, so that's the only time she probably felt like a lesbian.
You think Stevie Williams is a trashy nigger?
No, I don't think he's trashy, all I'm saying is Stevie—no, that guy is not trashy.
Stevie is my boy, and he'll smack the shit out of you.
Yeah, he almost has before. A long time ago at Pier 7, I was trying to do something over the block, and my board shot out and hit Josh Kalis in the knee, and then Josh got all mad at me like, "What are you doing, you stupid-ass white boy? Go back home, you punk rocker," and then Stevie's like, "What do we got over here? What's this little wigger up to?" He called me a stupid white boy, and I was like, "I'm sorry." Like Stevie, like I would never talk trash to that guy.
You just did.
No, I didn't. I didn't call him trashy.
Yes, you did.
I didn't mean it, man. Don't kick my ass, Stevie.
If you see Stevie, you better apologize.
Yeah, I'm going to.
Because he'll beat the fuck out of you with a brick.
Yeah, he would.
How come every time I see you, you are always making a dumb face?
It's just fun. It's not for an image or anything, it's just fun to do, it just gets me kind of psyched. Instead of waving, I give the middle finger. It's just something I've always done to my parents, and they are always like, "Hey, Corey," I'm like, "Yeah, cunt, what you want?"
Bullshit. You don't talk to your mom like that.
Yeah, I do. I get in trouble. I used to always have to eat soap when I was five years old. My dad would ask me to go clean my room. I was just like, "Screw you, dickhead." I've always had to eat soap.
What do you do up there in Walnut Creek?
Go to school everyday, go shop at thrift stores like the Goodwill and just go buy candy.
Do you like a lot of chocolate?
Yeah, I love candy. Especially before I go skate, it gets me hyped up.
Do you eat a lot of nuts too?
I hate nuts plain, but if it's in the stuff, it's good.
You like salty nuts?
Yeah, salty nuts—no, no, dude! That's wack! I don't like salty nuts. You are trying to make me sound gay, like I like salty nuts.
Speaking of nuts, tell me about this 25-stair handrail.
I was trying to do a 50/50 down it, and it was made out of aluminum, so me and John Minor had to wax it for like 25 minutes. Finally I just decided to go for it. I got on it fine, but the next thing I knew, I was bouncing on my nuts on the whole thing and jumped down to my face and just hit my face real bad and broke my collarbone and elbow and got jacked real bad. I damaged all the nerves in my face, just coughing up all this blood, had black balls.
What the fuck was going through your mind the second that you knew you lost it?
I don't even know how I got on my nuts, it's a safe rail. There is grass on the other side, and I was trying to jump off to the other side, and I just missed it. I thought I was going to slide down my nuts and get off, but I just kept tumbling down. Everything went black and red. I just let out this loud scream. It was a nice fall though. It got me so psyched after watching it on film. It made me mad though sitting in the hospital knowing I'm not going to be able to skate for a month. That kind of sucks, but otherwise it was kind of funny, it just makes me want to go back and do it even more.
So you are going to go back and do that rail?
Oh, yeah. Can't wait to try it again. It happened two weeks ago or something, and I'm skating again already. Nothing big, just doing flat ground, just cruising around having fun. Kind of like when you first start skating just to go have fun. It gives me more time to hang out with my girlfriend and eat more food.
You need to eat. You're anorexic.
Nah, I ain't 'rex. That's what everybody says. I eat so much food, man. I weigh 120.
How tall are you?
Six foot. Hey, I gained ten pounds in the last month, that's good. I was like Joey Ramone or something before.
You're buddies with Blink 182. Do yous guys ever run around the block naked?
No, man. I'm not into that. I mean, I'll see chicks run around naked, but I don't want to see no guys run around naked. But it was funny to see it in CKY, the guy running across the street naked, but at a concert I don't want to see it. If it was like Iggy Pop doing like his old set in tinfoil pants or something, that's rad because it's Iggy Pop, but like it's Blink 182, I don't want to see them running around in diapers and naked.
Another kind of fruity thing that you do, you are into clothing design aren't you?
Yeah, I like it. I've done a bunch of designs for Hurley. Emerica is going to let me do it for them hopefully too. I just always draw designs, and finally I just decided to submit it to Hurley, and they got psyched on it. I do jackets, shirts, pants, shorts. I really like fashion. I like different types of clothes. I guess that's why I like going to thrift stores so much. I just go buy stuff and try to make it into something different. I mean, designers are kind of fruity at times. Man, you guys are trying to make me sound gay in this interview.
No, you are sounding gay on your own.
Man, that sucks! I'm getting jacked so bad. I talked trash on Stevie, and now I'm sounding like a fag. Man, I'm going to get jacked.
You are already jacked.
Yeah, but Stevie's gonna punch me in my face, man.
He's got the right to.
I didn't call you trashy, man, I made a mistake.
Maybe you should apologize to Stevie right now.
Yeah, I'm sorry, Stevie, I don't think you are trashy, I think you are a damn good skateboarder though. That guy is so good. Oh, he's real good. That guy is really good at skating. You are the best, Stevie.
When you fall, you seem to fuck your shit up pretty bad, huh?
Yeah, I guess. I fall a lot. I broke my elbow like 12 times or something. I don't even remember the first time I broke it. It doesn't even bother me now when I fall on it and break it, I can't even feel it. I'm psyched that I get a metal joint put in it when I turn 18. In two years. All right, let's hear some more questions to make fun of me.
Do you ever get in fights, giving people the finger?
No. I'm surprised I don't get my ass kicked, because I talk so much trash.
Do you think you will get your ass kicked after this interview?
Probably. Stevie Williams is going to be after me. Like Stevie is not going to read it, but somebody is going to read it and be like, "Hey, Stevie, we got this kid talking trash on you." Oh, man, I'm getting jacked.
But you spit at people and you flip them off, and you don't get your ass kicked?
No. There was this kid—it's on Halloween—this kid spit at me, so I punched him in the face, and his older brother and all his friends came and jumped me. They kind of just pushed me on the ground and kicked me, I just got back up though. It was like nine guys who were all twice my size.
Do you think most people just don't fight you because you look like a girl and they don't want to beat up a girl?
Oh, that would be a good idea. Just go talk all the trash you can and just like have a wig on or something.
But you don't need a wig. You already look like a girl.
That's messed up. Calling me a chick.
I didn't call you a chick. I just said you look like a chick. I know you are a dude because only a dude would be stupid enough to go down 25 stairs on his face, but you look like a fucking chick.
Man, that's what people say too because I wear chicks' pants because they fit tighter too, so everyone thinks I'm a chick even more. They don't make guys pants tight enough. I have a size-27 waist, and I get like 27/34s. Guy pants aren't made that small.
You shop in the girls' section at K-mart?
Yeah, it's jacked man. No, I don't do it, I make my mom do it for me.
You make your mom buy your pants for you?
Yeah. She just called me up today like, "Oh, I found a pair of good new 512 Levis for you."
All right, Corey, I think I tortured you enough.
Torture me enough, nah. I had fun. I'm psyched, I get a Big Brother interview, that's my favorite magazine. When my mom gave me and my brother a subscription to it, I was like, "Yes, we finally get the magazine." When I was ten my mom was like, "I don't know, man, Big Brother, that's Larry Flynt." I was like, "Larry Flynt's my idol, man, he owns Hustler."
Did you get the issue of ...
Taboo? Hell, yeah, I got it.
Did you get it, or did your mom get it?
Oh, we got it. My mom was like, "Where the hell did this come from?" She didn't really care. I've seen those before, there has always been porno in this house.
Okay, let's end it there, unless you have to thank somebody.
Yeah, I guess I should thank my sponsors Emerica, Hurley, Ricta Wheels, Diakka Watches, Arnette and Metro Board Shop. I'd like to thank everybody: Paul Gomez, Justin Regan, my mom, my parents, anybody that has ever helped me out. Lance at the Firm and especially Greg and everybody at Think for everything they did in the past, and so like anybody that has helped me out, thanks. And thank you, you dickheads at Big Brother.